Let’s take them both at their word.Let’s take them both at their word. Here’s what he said: Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Here’s what she said: I thought a woman could win; he disagreed.
Despite the heated charges of lying being thrown around, anyone with the slightest knowledge of how perception and memory work, and interact, can easily accept that neither is lying. Both are reporting what they heard in that conversation.